Weekly Chat and Spectre Prompt Fest - 24/7/2015 - 31/7/2015

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Weekly Recs

It’s time again for you to give your weekly recs! This week we’re looking for your favourite fics/art you’ve seen over the past week and those fics/art that fit into the genre of the week!

This week the genre of fanwork recs we’re looking for is: Prompt fills! The 00Q tumblr community has many people who write short pieces for prompt fills, so this week we want your recs for those art and fic prompt fills that fill up the 00Q tag with lovely creativity.
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Spectre Prompt Fest!

The MI6 prompt bingo table continues! We’re releasing a new prompt every week up to when Spectre is released in the UK on November 6^th. You can  write/draw/create anything of your choice in response to the prompt, and you can post fills for any of the revealed prompt!

This week the prompt is: Possession

Exploding Objects	Love doesn’t solve everything	Broken	Health and Safety	Possession
Hidden	Hidden	Hidden	Hidden	Hidden
Hidden	Hidden	Hidden	Hidden	Hidden
Hidden	Hidden	Hidden	Hidden	Hidden

You can post your fills anywhere you like – tumblr, in the comments section of the weekly chat, to your own LJ! Feel free to link your fills in the chat, and don’t forget to tag your prompt fills with #mi6cafeprompt so everyone can share the 00Q love!

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This week’s questions

1)      Whose your favourite – James or Q? Why is this?
2)      Q and James are going out on a date! How would they dress up and why? Would James have to persuade Q to loose the cardigan?
3)      Describe each of the members of MI6 in five words. Why did you pick those words?
4)      What are Q and James’ favourite books?

Bonus Question - What do you think of the Spectre Trailer?

Feel free to add more questions below!
 

Comments

[spike-wilbury.livejournal.com]

1. James, mostly because Q was an old guy for a real long time. Though, Q is growing on me. Q is finally like, younger or almost Bond's age and that's nice to see. I personally didn't think an "older Q" would have worked in "Skyfall" mainly because they wanted to show once again, the old MI6 [James] and the new MI6 [Q]. With that, they were to show that sometimes old habits die hard and sometimes the new ways aren't always the best.

2. If they're going to a fancy restaurant, James is all tux'd out. Q has like this one nice suit but it's not nice to James's fancy so James personally gets Q a nice tailored tux and it's reserved for anniversaries. When they just want to go to a pub with Alec and Eve, James wears v-neck t-shirts that show off his abs and these sinfully tight jeans that show off his booty. [and make q weak at the knees]. Q wears jeans a tad bigger than usual because he feels a bit [okay a LOT] inadequate to James and long sleeve shirts. He likes plaid, so he'll wear a lot of plaid. James doesn't care as long as Q is having a good time and AWAY FROM WORK, he couldn't care less what Q is wearing.

3. James: arrogant, asshole, courageous, helpful, and insightful. [because he's all of these things. and he won't let people forget it]
Q: resourceful, arrogant, timid, leader, and calm [he works well under pressure]

... uh... i'll do other people later, i an le tired [i just got off of work]

4. James: he likes history biographies, mysteries [Stephen King] and Cormac McCarthy. He likes reading Coleridge [Kubla Khan and Rime of the Ancient Mariner like speak to him. Q is his albatross]

Q: Likes to read entertainment biographies, some mysteries [like Denis Lehane] and poetry. He's a personal fan of the "beat generation" and Vonnegut.

[teacass.livejournal.com]

1 - That's a really interesting idea - I've never thought that they could use Q as representing the new MI6 vs the old Mi6 in Bond (Although most meta things go over my head tbh, but still it's a really interesting point).

2 - Haha, I can totally picture James getting out the booty jeans for the sole purpose of making it difficult for Q to look anywhere else.

3 - You really sum up James and Q - why would you say that Q was both timid and a leader? Do you think he has to overcome his timidity to lead or does he just make his leadership style around the fact he's timid?

[spike-wilbury.livejournal.com]

i say timid and leader because he's hesitant now after Silva. It's a surprise that Mallory even let him stay on as Quartermaster after that fuck up [also plot advancement]. So, in my mind after that major fuck up, i think he's hesitant to be bolder. He was arrogant. So arrogant that he thought it was all right to connect silva's laptop RIGHT INTO MI6'S MAINFRAME. So, yeah, I think he's timid and a leader because he might be holding back after what had happened. Who knows if he's on the chopping block because of that incident.

Castillon

[(Anonymous)]

That's a really interesting idea about Q's reaction after his mistake! How do you think Q went about dealing with the aftermath of that decision in the wake of Skyfall? What did it take for himself and others to regain trust? (I suppose the new trailer tells us he wasn't axed! :P)

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[spike-wilbury.livejournal.com]

i feel like he was pissed off at himself. ROOKIE MISTAKE! he thinks bitterly. No one would have plugged in Silva's laptop to the bloody mainframe! So he beats himself over it. He thinks people won't listen to him. Just a kid, they'll think!

[however, when you look at Q-branch [most notably the gentleman that shows Q the fail safe code] they all look roughly around Q's age. [hence another Old vs. New MI6 going at it] So, they will still follow but Q doesn't think so]

Then James kinda gets him out of the rut. He says, Look, you brought Silva to me, and I killed him. Yeah, ya done goofed but you did your job. Instead of panicking you turned around and immediately helped me. And Q won James's respect for that.

And then there's Mallory. Mallory probably reprimanded him for being an idiot. The thing too is, did Mallory hire him or did Mansfield [Dench!M] ? So, there's that other factor. If Mansfield did, then I can see Mallory going: If she trusted you, I trust you. kind of thing. If Mallory hired him then he might be on a tighter leash but still have control of Q-branch to make sure he doesn't fuck up again.

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[(Anonymous)]

Aww! I love the idea of Bond giving Q a kind of pep talk. <3 And I always think of M as the one who did his hiring, but you're right, it could have been Mallory doing some early interference...

Have you read winterhill's "A is for Arrogance"? She deals a bit with Q's reaction after the film.

-Castillon

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[(Anonymous)]

Aww! I love the idea of Bond giving Q a kind of pep talk. <3 And I always think of M as the one who did his hiring, but you're right, it could have been Mallory doing some early interference...

Have you read winterhill's "A is for Arrogance"? She deals a bit with Q's reaction after the film.

-Castillon

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[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

I kinda like the idea of Q Branch rallying around Q if Mallory tries to punish him in some way

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes! All the Team Q Branch support!

-Castillon

[teacass.livejournal.com]

1) If I'm honest, I don't think I can choose. I switch between both POV when writing, and I enjoy them both for different reasons - they both have different backgrounds and experiences that I try to put into their points of view.

2) After the new Spectre trailer, I'm not sure that Q would pick something other than that poloneck jumper. Although maybe James gets him a proper suit for when they go to super fancy restaurants and then the next time they have a date night Q makes them go somewhere low key because he likes his poloneck dammit. I'd like to think that James would wear something quite fashionable - maybe a polo shirt with jeans when he's being casual and a full tux when he's going somewhere posh.

3) Okay, here we go!

James: Resourceful, stubborn, proud, loyal, driven. [I think James has a lot of different facets about him, but his core personality is his drive to do what is right, and his pride and loyalty to his country].

Q: Sharp, resourceful, ambitious, witty, caring [I think Q would be just as loyal as James, but it would be a less fire-like loyalty and more caring loyalty which is why I wrote caring instead of loyal. He's clearly ambitious and driven, to be Q, and I think he would be more witty than snarky because Q likes to be sarcastic but not necessarily to other's detriment].

Eve: Intelligent, calm, fighter, strong, snarky [Eve would totally be full of snark, if she's worked with Bond in the field you have to be to survive. I think she would be quite calm, she seemed to be very in control of herself when Bond was fighting the komodo dragons in Skyfall. She's clearly smart and a fighter - both physically she could take on someone but I think she's also a fighter in personality because she moved on after supposedly shooting Mi6's best agent off a bridge and that's got to take guts]

Tanner: Patient, witty, manipulative, driven, strong [I think Tanner would have to be patient to just get through the day, otherwise his stress levels would break him. I'd like to think he and Q have joke-offs in Q branch when he brings down files. He's manipulative because he knows what makes people tick and manages to get people in the right place at the right time, but he's also driven in the sense that he wan't to continue pushing himself to overcome new challenges]

Female!M: Flawless [because Judi Dench's M is flawless and the Queen of Mi6 and she gets stuff done]

4) I'd think James would read thrillers - everything from the classics to the ones he can find in an airport when he's bored stiff. Q would read to expand his mind - anything that challenges his ideas on life he would give a go to understand the world a little better.

Bonus Question) SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE. I am so pumped for this film, mostly for a) barrel rolling helicopters b) super pretty cars c) any scene where Q and James make eye contact for more than 1 second and I can use for new fic ideas.

Castillon

[(Anonymous)]

1) Right?! I find it so hard to choose. This is a tough question!

2) THE JUMPER. IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR EVERY OCCASION, INCLUDING INAPPROPRIATE OCCASIONS. Q's geek chic in contrast to Bond's determined formalwear gives me life.

3) Great adjectives for everybody! I love your distinctions between snarky and witty. And "that's got to take guts" for Moneypenny is right! I also enjoyed your joke exchange headcanon for Q and Bill Tanner (you and the others on the comm have successfully convinced me that Tanner is underrated!). I'm curious, how else would you characterize the relationship between those two?

Bonus question) STUNTS AND AT LEAST TWO NEW OTP SCENES. SO HERE FOR IT.

Castillon

[(Anonymous)]

1) IDK, this is so tough. Part of me wants to say "Bond" because we know much more about Bond than we do Q at this point, and because my Hufflepuff self identifies with his streak of loyalty. But also, part of what we know about Bond is that he totally sexually assaults Severine? (And others in pre-Craig films.) So like, I'm also predisposed to pick the character who hasn't done that on screen yet, and also I love Q's nerdiness and arrogance and humor, and yes, even the fact that he fucks up at a critical moment, because HOOBOY can I empathize with that. But you should ask again after SPECTRE comes out! Maybe something'll change. :D

2) They wear layered clothing that is good for a nice hike through the lake district on a sunny autumn afternoon and evening. It's all designer, because THESE TWO, and Bond and Q argue over who the best rough terrain shoe manufacturer is; Bond has his old standby from his military days, and Q is taking a Q Branch shoe design through the final testing stages. (The excuse for the date is that Q has to test a bunch of field innovations. But just because they're doing a bit of testing doesn't mean they also can't bring a picnic.) Q does indeed wear a cardigan, but Bond persuades him to take it off once they pitch their Q-Branch-improved tent for the evening.

(It positively floods the next morning, which Q planned on because 1) multiple testing conditions, 2) it impresses Bond, who is sure that they should be at least a little damp right now, but they are NOT because Q's waterproofing division is the best, and 3) slow, sleepy morning in with lots of cuddles and no need to get out of the nice toasty tent until it's warmed up outside.)

3) I'll just do the trio!
Bond: Traumatized, competent, charming, killer, relentless. Bond's suffering is part of his mythos, as is his charm, as is the fact that he never gives up until whoever needs to be killed has bit the dust; and he's survived this long, so he's good at what he does.

Q: Arrogant, genius, leader, good partner. The last three are my favorites! I think part of what makes Q so interesting is that he not only functions as the leader of his own Branch, but also spends his time anticipating and meeting his agents' needs in the field; as we see in Skyfall, he's willing to adapt his course of action to their circumstances even when it might be dangerous, particularly when the agent is (like Bond) someone he trusts.

Eve: Brave, enduring, legendary, quick-witted, adaptable. Moneypenny is able to change her ambition of being a field agent and follow a new career path, even after the disaster of shooting 007, and she shows her bravery and quick wits not only in the field but also in every conversation she has with Bond after she shoots him. She's legendary because of her notoriety as Bond's "killer," but also because she's MONEYPENNY and her character has been about as enduring as Q's in the franchise.

4) Q has a soft spot for Sherlock Holmes stories; because they've been translated into so many languages, they're some of the texts he uses to help himself learn new ones. Recreationally, he mostly reads a lot of blogs and journal articles, and any nonfiction or fiction books about topics that catch his interest. Bond likes action/thriller/mystery books. I almost want to say Lee Child's Jack Reacher series in particular, but it's so oddly similar to the Bond movies??? Like, crazy villains and circumstances vs. a brutal, laconic hero in a textual world that is, despite its hyperbolic content, grounded in realism/played straight.

Plotbunny: When Bond retires, he ends up writing a few letters to action/suspense writers about things they could improve in their action sequences (like correct anatomical reactions for one), and that's how he ends up with a steady job pseudonymously editing action novels for their fight scene accuracy.

SPECTRE TRAILER: At least TWO OTP SCENES be still my heart, can't wait for the stunts, look at the CAR, look at BOND IN A SKULL MASK AND I DEFY YOU NOT TO HEAR THE SUPERNATURAL TV SHOW VERSION OF 'O DEATH' RUNNING THROUGH YOUR HEAD, and who the hell are these old white guys and when and why is Bond going to kill them?

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[(Anonymous)]

All I can do now is see James walking around with O Death playing. Good God...

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[(Anonymous)]

Right? You feel me, anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXpnI52cLEc

"My name is death and the end is here..."

[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

my comment was too long of lj to handle apparently, wow, anyway, I'll post the bonus question separately

1) Whose your favourite – James or Q? Why is this? can I say both? I like writing Q because he's mostly a blank slate - you can read some of his character between the lines of Skyfall, but mostly I can make up what I like about him and it won't go against canon. James on the other hand... James Bond is my angst baby and needs to suffer but also needs to be hugged a lot. I love thinking of all the emotional trauma he's gone through... I'm a mean fan. I think maybe as a reader/watcher it's James, but maybe as a writer, Q? but I love writing James... nope I can't decide

2) Q and James are going out on a date! How would they dress up and why? Would James have to persuade Q to loose the cardigan? It depends! Where are they going? Are they having dinner? I think they might occasionally go somewhere fancy, in which case they'd both wear suits, and I think James may have picked/ordered Q's suit for him, because we've seen already that Q's sense of fashion is appalling. If they're going somewhere more casual, the cardigans are back - they're the only really quality bits of clothing Q owns, and most of them are less painful to the eyes than the one he was wearing in Skyfall - and James buys him new ones sometimes that complement his colouring, or whatever. James sticks to shirts and trousers for more casual things, although they still are well tailored. When it's really casual, a bar or something, out come Bond's (very tight because reasons) jeans and tshirts - I have a thing for daniel craig dressed like this (http://isthisrubble.tumblr.com/post/124482748999), which might have something to do with this headcanon (leather jackets *drools*). Q sticks to shirts, with the sleeves rolled up, but he occasionally cracks out the waistcoats, mainly because he knows how much that look drives James crazy.

3) Describe each of the members of MI6 in five words. Why did you pick those words? omg I love this question but it's so hard! (some of these might not make sense though)
Q: genius, quiet, watchful, gentle, rash I'm not sure how much of these are reading between the lines of canon and how much is headcanon, whoops
James: suave, sophisticated, secret dork... angst-magnet (that's one word, ok) tbh I think these are self explanatory
Eve: cooler than you, devious, fire tbh it's hard to explain these? I mean cooler than you is obvious, but the other two I'm not sure, it's just an impression that I get
Tanner: exasperated, office saint, loyal, badass I call tanner the office saint a lot, and I think a lot of the time he's saying to himself "I don't get paid enough for this shit" but then if you draw on his character from the books, too, you get his devotion to his job and his military history
Mansfield: I don't have time for this bullshit (I know it's 6 words but I couldn't resist) I mean she spends most of her time being told how to do her job by people who don't really have much idea what they're talking about, and then saying "I told you so" when everything goes to hell
Mallory: how is this my life I mean did you see him in the trailer? he's had this job for a few weeks and everything's already going to shit

4) What are Q and James’ favourite books? Q was 14 when the first Harry Potter book came out, he and his younger sister read them all together as they came out, Q still reads them when he needs to relax. I read somewhere the idea that James as a kid read Lord of the Rings while travelling around with his parents (I think that was in Carte Blanche), and the image of a tiny 10 year old James lugging around those huge books and having to read them a few times to get the hang of them has stayed in my head ever since. I'm not sure as far as proper literature/poetry etc though

Castillon

[(Anonymous)]

Which do you find easier to write--a character like Bond, who has a characterization with a lot of details and history you can draw on, or a character like Q, where you have to sort of color in the lines quite a bit with your own ideas and headcanons? I love writing them both, but they both present their own challenges and opportunities!

One of Q's presents to Bond: "Yes, you can dress me in the suit of your choosing." I think Bond would obviously enjoy that Q is wearing traditionally fashionable clothing, but would also like that Q is letting Bond outfit him with the proper suit in the same way that Q issues Bond with the proper equipment. Also: That is an excellent pic. JEANS AND JACKET BOND=YES.

Bond is so often aligned with water imagery that I think it's natural that Moneypenny, who almost killed him in Skyfall and has a history of resisting and challenging him in the canon, could be associated with fire. Plus, IDK. She's just that badass.

Is Tanner the true Hufflepuff of the series?

Mallory: Lol, perfect. I'm actually curious to know how much of a time skip there'll be between films. Surely Bond did some missions to earn his holiday before gallivanting off to Mexico? But yeah, I have a feeling that with the Andrew Scott character and Bond going off the map Mallory is really going to feel what it's like to be in the shoes of his predecessor.

OMG HARRY POTTER NERD!Q=INSTANT HEADCANON. And that image of young Bond lugging around LotR is so cute; I can see him liking it, especially as a kid. Do you think Bond would have taken strength as a kid from having people like Aragorn and Frodo as role models of strong males who also lost their parents when they were young?

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[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

I like writing both, for different reason? I like working through, with or around canon with Bond, and having so much canon (book, film, spin-off etc) to fall back on and/or inspire me, and as far as Q goes I can do whatever I want, so I can avoid things that annoy me in fanon that have become tropes, or self insert a teeny tiny bit (Q has my glasses prescription, for example). However, sometimes I have to remind myself that I'm writing about characters that are people, not just vessels for whatever awful thing I'm writing about. My Bond accidentally becomes too introspective and overly emotional, while Q tends to veer into one dimensional territory sometimes.

Bond gets to choose what colours and styles suit Q best - he's basically designing his own eye-candy, oops. But Q doesn't mind, because if he wears the suits James will also be wearing a suit. And yes, I love that look on Daniel Craig, so good.

I actually think of Bond as a fire kind of person? I read in a fic once that Bond is a fire and Q is the ocean, and that's always stuck with me. Maybe what I was thinking for Eve was more spark than fire, idk. All my Eve headcanons are tangled and confusing, and mixed up with fic-specific ideas.

... Tanner is literally the Hufflepuff, yes, omg

I think Bond probably liked the adventure of the Lord of the Rings (I've only read the Fellowship, though I've seen the movies, so I didn't even know about that correlation), because I bet he was bored while being dragged around the world by his parents for his dad's job, and I bet he wished they could travel somewhere interesting. And then in later life he wishes he'd paid more attention to where they went and what he saw.

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[(Anonymous)]

OMG, I relate so hard to that regret of not paying more attention while traveling as a kid. But of course Bond's regret would sting stronger, and differently, tinged by the fact that these were times he had with his parents that he took for granted. ANGST.

(Now I really want Bond going back to his child-self's body and trying to prevent his own orphaning. Since that seems to go okay, he also tries to prevent a bunch of other things as he grows up, like, IDK, Vesper's boyfriend being kidnapped or whatever else Quantum did that resulted in her death. However, eventually it becomes apparent to him that he needs help, but he also needs help that isn't a threat...and that's when young!Q comes in with his genius, and Bond suddenly knows more about Q's backstory than he ever had in the future. Conveniently enough, it sucks, making globetrotting with Bond a semi-viable alternative. AND THEN THEY FIGHT CRIME AND HELP EACH OTHER DEAL WITH THEIR ANGST. Or whatever.)

Bond's favorite LotR character: Aragorn or Eowyn? (Or other?)

What a great, thoughtful answer about how you find writing Bond and Q! I love that you are able to be so specific about your own challenges. Does a beta help with noting those instances? Or is it usually more of a vague feeling that "this doesn't feel right" and you realize why it didn't after you do a rewrite or something?

I love that Q's backstory is something I can make different in every fic if I want to; there's so much possibility to play around with. For myself as a writer, I am always having to pull back from being too ridiculous and fully indulging my absurd gadget and mother-henning ideas for Q--sometimes the freedom of possibility can get a little TOO heady! (Important question: "Does it NEED to be electrified?") Since one of my favorite themes is unconditional positive regard, which is kind of...not a prominent canon theme...the Bond canon also serves, like you mention, as a useful touchstone for me re: trying to keep them IC and hopefully not too sappy, etc. I think that reading the books with the book club will also serve as inspiration re: Bond's POV, which can be tricky!

-Castillon

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[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

I think Bond liked Aragorn the most.

I hash things out with a friend if I'm struggling, and having a beta familiar with Bond also helps a lot. Sometimes I'll leave her a note: there's something wrong here, but I can't work out what and then we work it out together. I rarely do full on rewrites, they take too much time, but often I go back and change something a million times before I'm happy with it. My problem is usually that I've made Bond too emotional. Because I love making him suffer, apparently.

I tend to turn Q into a bit of a self inset, sometimes - not in personality or interests (I am not a tech person) but in background, etc: one of my WIPs has Q's extended family, and I based it on my own, as well as always giving Q my glasses prescription because I know how to describe it.

I think that reading the books with the book club will also serve as inspiration re: Bond's POV you've discovered me evil plan...

[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

Bonus Question - What do you think of the Spectre Trailer? *takes huge breath* SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE SPECTRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHH
what does everyone make of the lack of mention of almost everything from the teaser trailer? what has Waltz's character got to do with Bond's past? Bond going off on his own personal mission omg don't touch me. and Q!!!! omg I love what we've seen of him so far. I'm mourning the lack of Eve & Tanner, and I can't wait to see what's going on with Mallory and Andrew Scott's character... oh god I need answers I need this movie now (also if you haven't already, read this (http://www.007.com/new-spectre-trailer-released/))

Castillon

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for the link! I still haven't seen Quantum, so this Mr. White business is a bit of a blank to me. I'll have to catch up before November!

I think the teaser trailer was more thematic so they could intrigue people with broad ideas in a short amount of time, whereas the actual trailer gave us more concrete details about what the film and characters are up to so we can start speculating and anticipating.

I really want to see what they do with Eve! I hope there are some nice HBIC things for her to do (not necessarily action if it doesn't fit the story, but I wouldn't object if she got a cool fight scene). Anyway, it should be clear that her job as M's secretary is far from a demotion after her field work!

CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE.

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[spike-wilbury.livejournal.com]

a lot of people shit on Quantum of Solace but i think it's a solid film. Yeah, i hated it when i saw it in theaters, but you know what? It's a continuation of casino royale and *gasp* character development of bond.

you don't see that a lot in bond films and i quite liked it. Shame that this one was bogged by the writers strike [as i have said before] sure, it's not the BEST one but it's still a good one to enjoy if you take out that the plot is let's face it, REALLY STUPID. but then again, reading other Fleming books and Garnder, the plot is actually better than some of the books i've read so.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I heard the writer's strike left it a bit of a mess. But I think that because I am going in with fairly low expectations, I probably won't be disappointed, if that makes sense! At the very least Daniel Craig will probably get into a nicely choreographed fight? And hey, character development. Always a bonus. :P

-Castillon

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[spike-wilbury.livejournal.com]

there's a lot of nice fights. Unfortunately the villain is seriously lacking. However, it does introduce us to Quantum which is like SPECTRE light. And I'm hoping that they at least get mentioned in SPECTRE because I always thought of Quantum as a front /for/ SPECTRE.

I'm also hoping that they say that Silva was part of Quantum just as a little nod to the other movies, too.

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[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

now you have to decide: watch QoS before Spectre so you get more context, or wait to watch it with the movie club...

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[spike-wilbury.livejournal.com]

okay, if i am able to ever get into the movie club viewings when i can get a weekend off at work, i am going to apologize in advance of me making fun of all these movies. it's what i do. i can't help myself. SO I'M SORRY IN ADVANCE.

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[(Anonymous)]

Everyone's got their own viewing style! And I have heard that many of the Bond movies can tip a little too far into the ridiculous at times. :P

-Castillon

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[isthisrubble.livejournal.com]

we can make fun of them all together, then!

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[(Anonymous)]

CONTEXT. I'm normally such a sucker for continuity, but I arrived at the Bond movies a bit late. I definitely want to watch it with the movie club, too, though!

-Castillon